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  • Am I the only one frustrated with Breanna Randall's continued "spoiled brat" ignorant naivety? I loved this character, however, her constant self absorbed outlook and unceasing ignorance toward the reality of her situation is creating a rift in my affections. This "new" persona of Bre's is the driving force behind her poor decisions. Decisions that have power to literally rewrite history should be influenced by a more balanced Bre. In the latest episode "The Birds and The Bees", I literally had to stop watching as soon as Ian implied to Jamie that Roger was Breanna's attacker. All I could do was cuss and complain about how Breanna's constant secrecy and mood swings have led to this moment. Let's be honest, if she didn't continuously throw a temper tantrum every time she and Roger disagreed none of this would be happening. I truly hope the writer's do a better job at making her more likable soon and quickly. I love the actress and I liked the character in the beginning. I don't want to lose my fondness due to a continued decline of Breanna's personality. It's hard enough to cope with Claire's moments of self-righteous views and actions when they result in calamity. I think having both of them venture that "character arc" would be detrimental to the show. That's just my opinion.

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    • The writers are following the books

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    • They are following the books but in some places a bit loosely.  The story of Brianna and Roger's "fight" in Wilmington and her belief that he has left her and gone back to Scotland is one of them.  In the book Brianna was upset that Roger followed her because she fears they have now no way to return to their own time thru the stones.  The idea that you need someone to focus in order to return  is a big part of the books.  So in the book they leave each other amicably after their night together, Roger goes to find more gemstones to increase their chances of returning thru the stones together.  So in the book Brianna is anxiously awaiting his arrival at Fraser's ridge and concerned about how long its taking him to get there.  I agree that the tv show Brianna is much more of a downer than the one in the book.  But I guess the writers have their reasons for making changes!

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    • 2605:E000:614B:800:C1CF:2126:10A7:361D wrote: So in the book they leave each other amicably after their night together, Roger goes to find more gemstones to increase their chances of returning thru the stones together.

      Their parting in the book was not "amicable". Brianna stormed off and shouted that Roger could do whatever he wanted, up to and including returning to Scotland and going back through the stones. In the book, Roger himself did not say that part. And later, after Brianna returned to her room with Lizzie, she could hear Roger shout from the street, "Brianna! I shall come for you! Do ye hear me? I _will_ come!" So that's why Brianna was anxiously awaiting his return.

      The show decided to leave the impression that Roger intended to go back to Scotland and the stones, and thus leave Brianna believing that he wouldn't return. Judging by the previews for episode 410, they're going to have the truth come out via Lizzie telling Brianna that she saw Roger near Fraser's Ridge. It makes sense to condense it this way; it's easy to convey passage of time in a book with just a sentence or two, but watching characters "wait" on screen isn't visually stimulating.

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    • Thank you all for the information. I understand that the writers have "artistic leeway" and a huge job of condensing novels for viewing audiences. I was simply hoping that those of you whom have read the books would be able to give me hopeful insight that Bree's character would be less of a "pain in the backside" in the future episodes. I am planning to read the books but I have to embark on that journey after the conclusion of the TV series. Books are more in depth and I feel the experience they offer can be tainted if you try to do both at the same time. I struggle with keeping them separate and that spoils the experiences of both mediums.

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    • First of all, I disagree with the notion that Bree is acting like a spoiled brat. In fact, in the past two episodes, she has been stoic and her acceptance of her fate, whatever that may be, has been steadfast. The series writers have intensified Roger's and Brianna's voilatie tempers. They are both acting somewhat stereotypically Scottish. This is not something I admire as a writing choice, but I do understand it.

      Bree is clearly trying to protect her mother and her father from finding out about Bonnet once she learns of his terrible effect on them before she, herself, travelled backwards. 

      Also, the sheer shock of adjusting to a very different time and place, almost psychotically so, is enough for Bree to make huge mistakes. Adjusting to a father who not only does not know her, but does not understand the 20th century, would be nearly impossible for any young woman I know, no matter how brilliant.

      Viewers with all the hindsight of seeing the circumstances of both centuries have a hard time of it.

      I was disappointed in Roger's and Bree's argument after committing to one another for life, but I charged that to the show writers who wanted to create more drama, more drama.

      AND Bree is processing being raped, losing her love, being pregnant, finding her mother, meeting her father and on and on.

      If anything, after tonight's show, I am far more disturbed by Jamie for forcusing so much of his emotion on Bonnet and so little on Roger.

      And if you want to be disappointed in someone, be disappointed in Bree's 'maid' who jumps to conclusions all of the time.

      And, by the way, just like in Game of Thrones, the books aren't finished, we do not know the fates of Jamie, Claire, Brianna or Roger among many others. 

      There is no reason not to read the books at least to the point we have arrived in the show. You cannot find the end of the story either way.

      In the show, Brianna is worried that Roger will return to Scotland and go through the stones, but the show has given us at least two scenes previous to his arriving at Fraser's Ridge to be sure he was going back to Bree. And after all, it was Roger who said he would have Bree completely or not at all which is a rather strange notion for his generation whether you realize it or not.

      So all of you, stop with the judgement until you at least have enough information to see how things go in the long run.

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    • To me, Book Bree is a different character.  Yes, closely related, but not at all the same 'feel' to me.  And I would like to slap Lizzie.  >:

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    • When I posted the original thread, I was spiraling from the episodes roller coaster of emotions. It provoked the guantlet of feelings the writers were hoping for. My frustration with the character was simply that, FRUSTRATION.

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    • And her name is spelled Brianna and not Breeana........I assume you would not have misspelled it if you have read the books. 

      If you have not read hte books, pls read them. The detail there will help you understand her character and then you will be able to better judge what you see on the screen. 

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    • Regarding the TV-series episode 10 - I don't understand how Jamie could missunderstand it when Brianna talked about having an argument with the man but still caring for him. How could he think she was talking about the rapist? Even though Lizzie did not understand, Jamie knew that Brianna has a relationship with a scot named Roger and that they argued and kind of split up. It seems totally unlikely that he would think she is talking about the rapist. I don't know if it is the same in the book, haven't read that far yet.

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    • I have read the books.  More than once.  I’d like to agree with original poster.  TV Brianna is annoying me to the point that I have almost turned it off for good.

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    • How could she blackmail Lord John Grey like that? It really is disappointing... Although she comes from the future and has an opened mind about almost everything, why does she care if her child is born a bastard? It's not like she is royalty and NEEDS to do something or else! As far as she's concerned she lives at Fraser's Ridge, where no one cares about that...

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    • She cares about her child being not born a bastard as she finally has started to grow and to understand that the 18c is not the 20c.......

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    • User 2601:980:4200:1AD9:A45F:33E9:57B:F1EE, if she is so annoyng, then don;t watch. 

      I like her just fine and the original post does not adress any specific differences that we can discuss, it rather just generalizes about things which does not help me agree. 

      And Brianna is not balanced at all. She does slap Roger, she does get mad at Jamie, and she does follow Bonnet in his room on her own.......she is not prepared for the 18c reality and pays dearly for it.......but she learns as time passes and the acress shows exaclty what is in the book........so if you would have liked Diana Gabaldon to have written about a more balanced Brianna, that is different matter..........

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    • I would have thought that by growing, she would think of going back to Fraser's Ridge, upon her parent's return ( with, or without the possible father of the child ), offering that child a warm, loving home. Not marring some old man under at her aunt's request! And poor Grey, always at the mercy of the Fraser charm ! 

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    • Don't mean to step on toes here but Brianna and Tiger's story bores me to years. Jamie and Claire's love story excited me. I bought all the books, DVD's and some keepsakes. Couldn't get enough of them. Is anybody else going through this?

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    • I've gotten to accept the actor that plays Roger as I do like him when he's not in scenes with Brianna. However, Sophie Skelton's complete lack of acting always throws me out of the story with her first few words. At least she does look the part, but her character does more than just stand around I'm sad to say. At least every other actor gets 5 stars, though Sam and Cait are sheer perfection..

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    • Yep, you said it. In the books, Brianna really begins as a selfish, unsophisticated brat, but she matured as she ages and becomes a most likable character. However, that happens in the last few books.

      In this season, i have not warmed to the Roger/Bree story at all. At first, I thought I was reacting to plot changes from the novels. However, after all these episodes, I just admit I think this actress just doesn’t carry off the part of Bree, particularly compared to the other fantastic cast members. Too bad. It really has, for me, affected that entire plot arc.

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    • I have to say  I have been quite annoyed at her for not taking any responsibility at all for Roger's predicament.  Yes, Lizzie made her own conclusions, but she did outright ask Brianna if the man who pulled her away was the one who hurt her, and Brianna just said something like 'please leave me alone.' All she had to do was say 'no, that was another man, later', but she said nothing. Admittedly, it's hard to talk about being raped (I know, since I have been raped myself), and she was quite young at the time and still a product of the 60s, which were not a forgiving time for women who had been raped, so I don't really blame her for her silence, but I would still like to see  her later recognizing that she is as much to blame as the rest of them, rather than just self-righteously expressing anger at Lizzie, Jamie and poor Young Ian.

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    • Gadjanov... As I stated in my original post, I have NOT read the books and do not intend to until the television series is complete. It is my own personal preference but I prefer to keep both mediums separate so that I may enjoy them equally without unwanted comparisons that are bound to happen when enveloping yourself in both simultaneously. It's merely a choice derived from years of experiences with both literal and visual works. I find it much more satisfying to keep them separate so that the adventures are more satisfying. Like I said, this is simply my opinion.

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